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Allen Welsh's avatar

The reference to Ellington and Karl's comment jogged a couple of memories. I've read that Ellington loved Ray Nance's "A Train" solo so much that he would not let him deviate far from the original recording. Even when Cootie Williams played it the solo came out quite similar to Nance's. As for "Rose of the Rio Grande" I recall a live recording where Ellington introduces the tune saying something like "Here's Lawrence Brown to give his entirely spontaneous improvisations on . . ." Duke's tongue was no doubt firmly planted in his cheek.

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Marty Ehrlich's avatar

Hi Lewis. All you say makes so much sense, of course backed up by your careful research. It helps me articulate in my mind this dynamic: Armstrong blasts open a door of dramatic spontaneity, but he too has to temper it over the years to stay in the place the entertainment business which was his option in our country gave him. I like your placing of Bird as the establishing of a practice of open spontaneity, but he did it also within 12 and 32 bar forms and used his own set language, the phrases we know in solo after solo, to construct what I like to think of as one long solo. He finds a brilliant artistic/expressive solution to the constraints of the world he finds. It is of course much more than that, but yes, he blows the door open yet more.

Ornette goes on stage and only plays his own compositions which don’t use the forms connected to the earlier times. And I’ll stop with a Lester Bowie quote on the Art Ensemble of Chicago, a group that returns to extensive collective group improvisation at least in some spiritual connection to King Oliver. “We had lousy nights, but we had to have them to have the great ones.” This is fully the ownership of the improvisational Afrological process. Not better than what went before, but a needed artistic and political stance to keep that door open. We are all the humble beneficiaries of these visionaries.

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